1197. So I said to him that no one else should be sought for but God the Messiah only, Whom they had so scorned during their life; that He governs the universe, both heaven and earth, and that help should be sought from no one else. He asked anxiously, and several times, where He is, so that he could speak with Him. I said that He is everywhere, and that if he wanted to speak with Him, He could be found in every place, wherever he was staying, even in that city. But he insisted he would like to speak with Him in person, but because the rest of the spirits with me suspected him of deceit, he went away. 1748, 7 March.