Two whom I had known in life who had taught much, and who had been quite diligent in their preaching, began to tell that they were now possessed with an eagerness to teach. I noticed that the zeal they had had during life was thus reviving, so to speak, but from what kind of desire their eagerness arose was concealed from me. However, I spoke with others who were high above me who, I suppose, had been teachers during their life and were therefore very high in heaven. We spoke, in fact, of someone who had possessed an intense love of teaching, which was almost his whole life. This occasioned me to discuss this case, saying that I did not know the source of their desire to teach. I knew they had been like this in their bodily life, but there are some who possess that zeal so that they may be regarded as wise by the world, being moved by that ambition. In this case they can expect no reward in heaven due to that zealous labor, because it is for their own sake, so as to be looked upon as wise. Others may have the motive of becoming great persons, and of being honored, others, motives of profit, while yet others are compelled to engage in it to make a living, when yet they would take more pleasure in different, more mundane pursuits; still others have an inborn, native urge to teach, but still can expect no [reward] for this. But as for the zeal for teaching, regarded in itself, it is not theirs, but the Lord's, as these same persons confess in their preachings. Therefore, anyone in the other life taking credit for this zeal, obtains nothing in heaven.