Spiritual Experiences (Odhner) n. 207

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207. About the normal state of spirits with people on earth [164]

Spirits around or in people who do not speak with them or reflect upon them, do not at all believe they are those people they are present with, but only that they are people, and that they live like them. For every spirit believes himself to be a person on earth, and is indignant if told otherwise. In fact, they think they have ears, eyes and senses such as people on earth, and when I told and showed them that this cannot be the case, for several reasons, it displeased them. 1) But because I was able, by certain reflections granted to me by God the Messiah's mercy, and several other methods, to give them the feeling that they had use of bodily senses, I came to the conclusion that this idea does remain with them after the death of the body, and that the more inward aspects of a person do not know otherwise than that they are a human being, for into the image [of the more inward person] the body was formed [in the first place]. By means of muscles, the body acts in unison with the will, as is well known, whence comes the abiding idea of body. 2) Today also I was shown that spirits could be present and speak with me, as well as perceive my thoughts - and nevertheless see nothing that I did. So I was almost sent back into my former state; then I could feel nothing whatever of their operation as I usually could, except so little that I could hardly tell the difference between this and the ordinary state. 1747, the 13th day of October (old calendar).


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