When new angels had arrived, a conversation with them was arranged, and after I had shown them the things that came before my eyes, such as urban scenes, and more, the conversation focussed on the diversity of auras and states of mind in the heavens, i.e. that they were indeterminably numerous, which was also proved; also, that all variations of state of mind are from differences of love in the people concerned. There was then a discussion about the indeterminable, namely: 1) That indeterminables can never exist except from the infinite. 2) That indeterminables regarded in themselves are images of the infinite. 3) When they said they were being instructed in things they had not known before, it was answered that they are not being taught by me, but by themselves - which was a paradox to them. But it was explained in this way: one imbibes philosophical knowledge by oneself and by the working of one's own mind, and when we have learned it and reduced it into rules, we are not aware that it is something from within, and in fact, indeterminably more perfect [than if from without]. And because man is ruled through angels and spirits, I therefore must have these things through them [and not myself]. Hence we can now conclude how poor and what a nothing philosophy is, because of which people are nevertheless acclaimed as learned - when yet any young boy whatever is much more learned of himself, or in himself. 4) So it was shown that in many areas, the same fallacy exists. 1747, the 29th day of October (old calendar).