About these points I have spoken with spirits, and by a varied experience it has also been confirmed previously [1999, 2102], now again by one more, and demonstrated before my eyes that this is the case. For some were saying they wanted to reduce me to being nothing, so they received the reply that [one who has faith] confesses to being nothing. And so we spoke somewhat about this "being nothing," as often done previously [1912, 2043 ff., 2418, 2464-7, 2470-1], and it was shown by demonstration that when an evil is committed, such a person is then not in the evil along with them, being aroused by them to doing the evil, and indeed in such a way, as has sometimes happened, that they compelled me, as they have others, to speaking, feeling, and doing the evil for the purpose of laying the blame for their own evil on the person, which has often happened. So when spirits are able to compel someone to thinking, speaking or doing evilly, then they not only