I spoke with spirits about stubbornness, saying that it pertains to imagination, to desire, to conviction, and that stubbornness is to be compared with something hard, and that there ought not to be any stubbornness in people, so that they may be led by the Lord. But as much as there is of stubbornness, so much there is of the human ego. This is taken away by the Lord in those who are led by the Lord-not breaking, but bending them in countless varieties of ways. 1748, 30 Aug.