3107. So a person is in an entirely different state when in Church, both the speaker and the listener, not reflecting on arguments that could be raised, than when in a state to reason. For example, about life after death, who does not believe in life after death, moved even to sighs and tears, when listening to an enthusiastic preacher? But who believes in life after death when in a argumentative state of mind? Some spirits were let into a state of zeal, as they were when they had preached and listened in church. Then they were in such a state of conviction; but I know that outside of that state they are not like that, but wonder, like others, about every detail, whether it is so. 1748, 9 Sept. Even famous preachers had been in that state for a period of time, that they considered it impossible for a person on earth to speak with spirits, for the reason that they had held that opinion in their lifetime, and [I] perceived that if someone had told them such a thing in their [bodily] life,