3139. There was a conversation with him about what that life was like, namely that when they are in battles and in danger, they should not fear death, but outside of battles should have the kind of life that results from the conviction that they alone are human beings, and worthy to live, not others. It was said that this is crazy, just as those are gone crazy who are led by a false conviction. They are like bolts that are twisted back so hard that they can no longer be withdrawn [cf. 3003].