Some of them were with me, and they instructed me that they are hot, so it seems to them, but they are usually afire in their frenzy. So also, when they approach to the heavenly things of love, thus toward heaven, they become frigid, and as cold as snow and ice. The fires and ices can also waver from one extreme to the other, so that they are tortured miserably. 1748, 19 Sept.