Scattered within this callus are also good and true elements which sprout forth from the medullary body as a root, and are thus implanted. It was portrayed to me how those good and true elements scattered in the callus were removed [along with it], but withdrew themselves toward the inward parts. Thereupon those from whom they had been removed, crying out, said that now they did not believe anything - that there is a heaven, a God, or anything spiritual and heavenly, and that it appeared to them as if they were nothing, or nobody. A number underwent this who nevertheless are believers, or had been before these elements were taken away.