752. To these things I will add this MEMORABLE OCCURRENCE. It was given [me] to speak with the Pontiff SEXTUS THE FIFTH. He was going out of a certain society in the west towards the left. He said to me that he was appointed as chief governor of a society gathered together from Catholics who excel the rest in judgment and activity; and that he became their chief governor on account of his having, for half a year before his death, believed that the vicarship was an invention for the sake of dominion; and that the Lord the Saviour, because He is God, is He Who Only ought to be adored and worshipped; also that the Sacred Scripture is Divine, and is thus holy above the edicts of Popes. He said that until the end of his life he remained firm in the faith of these two principles of religion. He said also that their saints are not anything. He was astonished when I related that it had been decreed in a synod, and confirmed by a bull, that they should be invoked. He said that he is in such a life of activity as he had been in the world; and that every morning he proposes nine or ten things to himself which he wants to have accomplished before the evening. I asked whence he obtained within so few years such a great treasure as he laid up in the Castelo del Angelo. He replied that he wrote with his own hand to the rulers of rich monasteries to send of their wealth as much as they would from choice because it was for a holy use; and that because they were afraid of him they sent abundantly. And when I said that that treasure is still in existence, he said, 'What use is it now?' [2] In the course of speaking with him I related that since his time the treasure at Loretto has been immensely augmented and enriched, and so likewise have the treasures in certain monasteries, especially in Spain. However, at the present day this increase has not been so much as in former ages. And I added, that they are keeping them without any useful purpose other than that they should be pleased on account of possessing them. And when I related this, I also said that they are such as the infernal gods, which the ancients used to call Plutos. When I mentioned Plutos, he replied, 'Hush! I know.' He said again that no others are admitted into the society that he is set over but those who excel in judgment, and are able to receive [the truth] that the Lord Only is the God of heaven and earth, and that the Word is the Divine Holy (Sanctum Divinum); and that under the Lord's auspices he is perfecting that society every day. He also said that he has spoken with so-called saints, but that they become foolish when they hear and believe that they are saints. He was even calling stupid those Pontiffs and cardinals who wish to be adored as Christ, although not in person, and who do not acknowledge the Word as the Divine Holy itself in accordance only with which one ought to live.