1602. That 'Jehovah said to Abram' means that Jehovah so spoke to the Lord becomes clear from the internal sense of the Word, in which the Lord is meant by 'Abram', and also from the very state that was His at that time and which is also described here, that is to say, a state in which external things that obstructed were removed. This is what is meant by the statement 'after Lot had been separated from him'. The Lord was Divine as regards His Internal Man because He was begotten from Jehovah, and so when there was no obstruction on the part of the External Man, He consequently saw all things to come. The reason this then seemed to be 'Jehovah saying' is that it took place in the presence of the External Man. As regards the Internal Man He was One with Jehovah, as the Lord Himself teaches in John,