2593. I have also been allowed to talk to others who lived in ancient times and who in those times belonged among those with more wisdom than others. First I saw them at a distance in a forward position, and while there they were able to discern the more interior aspects of my thoughts, thus many things completely. From a single idea present in my thought they were able to know a whole sequence and to fill it with the delights of wisdom together with lovely representations. From this I perceived that they belonged among those with more wisdom, and I was told that they were some of the Ancients. So they then drew nearer, and when I read to them something from the Word they were supremely delighted. I was given to perceive their delight and joy itself, which stemmed mainly from the fact that every single detail which they heard from the Word was a representative of and a meaningful sign of celestial and spiritual things. They said that during the time they lived in the world their manner of thought and speech and also of writing was of this nature, and that in such had lain their pursuit of wisdom.