8381. When the spirits from Jupiter saw horses belonging to our planet those horses seemed to me to be smaller than usual, though in fact they were quite powerful and tall ones. This was due to the idea that spirits from that planet had about the horses there. They said that their horses were similar yet much larger, but that they are wild or live in forests and that when caught sight of they terrify people, although they are completely harmless. They added that their fear of them is innate or natural. This gave them an opportunity to think about the cause of that fear. In the spiritual world a horse represents an understanding formed from factual knowledge, 2761-2763, 6534; and since they fear to cultivate their understanding by means of knowledge, fear therefore enters them. The fact that they have no interest in the factual knowledge belonging to human learning will be seen further on.