1188. Since, therefore, they are averse to things more interior, those who were with them in a similar dwelling-place, but who were remaining there, said that they now observed their own errors, namely, that they had supposed in simplicity that those things which are external exist, but that what is interior, namely, the spiritual joined to the natural, was scarcely anything; they do not admit anything apart from the natural, and they know no otherwise than that it is [only] from the natural that there is anything. It was given me to say to them that in every single natural idea there are things innumerable and ineffable from which they preclude themselves when they do not admit the more interior things, which being ineffable do not thus fall into a natural idea. It was also permitted to represent this to them in a spiritual manner by the opening up of one idea, which at the time appeared as a black point, but when it was opened up it extended like a universe, leading to the Lord. So it was said that in every idea which is derived from the Lord there is an image of the whole heaven, because it is from Him Who is Heaven. 1748, Mar. 6.