1421. Consequently, they were just like flames running through and enjoying fine material, such as everything I had seen in the heavens, which they said they knew about. And then I said that perhaps they imagine they know it, and yet do not know it, because everything spirits see in a person's memory, they imagine they know and had known. But still, I realized that at the level of the occiput, a little behind and to the left, there was a multitude of them, who were aware of all this at the same time, and that they are able to obtain such knowledge because they pay attention only to the real events and thus to the inward qualities, and do not want to linger in outer ones; for spirits have this kind of memory.