1820. They argued with me about the Lord, saying it was strange that He does not hear prayers when they prayed, and then bring aid to those imploring it. I replied, how can they be listened to when their goal was things contrary to the welfare of the human race-because they were praying for themselves, against all, thus against the whole of humanity. This, of course, they did not want to acknowledge, for it was on their own account, but in order to control everyone. So they could say nothing in reply, realizing that in this way heaven is closed, not opened.