Spiritual Experiences (Odhner) n. 3187

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3187. On martyrdom

I spoke with spirits about martyrdoms, because several have claimed, because they were martyrs and decorated with the crown of martyrdom, that they should therefore have dominion above others. I had previously been prompted to say to them, and now have brought forward and suggested that those who place merit in them and consequently want to dominate in heaven, are not true martyrs. For this is not heavenly, or an expression of true faith It was further said that there are many kinds of martyrdoms, such as that of the Quakers, and others, so that every heresy is able to have its own martyrs. Those who have a conviction want, even desire, to undergo death on behalf of their convictions, however fantastic they are. In monasteries dedicated to saints, how many martyrizations are not depicted, some of whom were then made saints? To illustrate, I was also prompted to say that for the sake of women for whom they had been smitten by love, many have undergone torments, dangers, and death, as is well known to everyone.


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