3415. On being asked what they wanted to do with those they had thus drawn toward themselves and collected by fantasies, they said they would wrap them up in a net and would throw them forth into the sea or abyss. So some wanted themselves to symbolize a flood, that by such fantasies they would perish as by a flood. Whether there had been a like correspondence of a flood at the time then of the antediluvians seems probable, but that the flood did take place is evident from many things, about which I spoke with them. However, as for the ark of Noah, there were many things that lead one to believe that it symbolizes other things, as that there was room and food, as well as water, for so many animals that were there, and that it was so spacious. But I leave these matters, because there are spirits who wish to confuse by means of things that actually took place, so that I may suppose that all and the very least things written by Moses in Genesis are facts, because [it speaks of] such a paradise, of Adam, as well as other things.