581. There were some spirits from that earth who listened as I was reading Chapter 17 of John. They were surprised that the One Only Lord had become a human being, and had been on earth like another human being, but still they said afterwards that all things [they heard] are Divine. Spirits of our earth, who were disbelievers, were constantly interjecting that He was human, that He was crucified, that He was born human, and was like any other human being. They listened to these remarks without saying anything. Later, however, they declared that these spirits were altogether devils, because they take the things they are saying from what is worldly, bodily, and the like, which they on their earth reject as waste and consider as nothing. On such refuse these spirits like to base their speaking, which blinds minds and casts darkness over the light of truth. And now they are warning the spirits of our earth that so long as they stay in such rubble, and develop their arguments therefrom, or judge therefrom, they are no different from their own devils, whom they completely reject from society, casting and spewing them out beneath their feet, or into the mud. The spirits of Jupiter could also judge their evil character from the fact that of all that the spirits of our earth had heard about them, they entertained in fantasy nothing else but the fact of their nakedness. Other matters, which are heavenly, they do not even think about, which leads to the conclusion that there is almost nothing heavenly in them. 1748, 26 January.