Speaking with spirits who were around me, I said that the notion of some is that a spirit cannot be in a place, because of being a spirit, and because they conceive of a spirit as thought alone, and do not have any idea of a substance underlying the thinking. [On this subject] I said that thought, which is inner sight, can no less be without an underlying substance than sight, which does not exist without the eye. I further said that thought cannot be enclosed in a place, nor can sight, because it wanders out almost to the borders of the universe, and human thought to matters of faith, so thought cannot be closed up in a place. Therefore those who think of the spirit as only thought without a substance as basis are mistaken, and do not at all know what the spirit is, when yet the spirit is a substance,