I realized they were discussing among themselves the fact that the life of spirits consists in their desires, without which they would not live, consequently could not mix with others. This was also demonstrated to them in various ways that came only vaguely to my perception, and they acknowledged it, that is, that if each one were not permitted what meets with their desire, they would not be able to go on among others, thus not be able to live. From this one may conclude that the Lord bends them each through their own desires. On another occasion earlier [see 2194 ff., 2880] I spoke with them about the fact that their life consists in being so permitted, and that otherwise, unless they were permitted to act according to their fantasies, they would not be able to live. 1748, 2 Sept.