3238. For some time once again they were spoken with by the angels of the Lord, and they were told in quick intervals, by means of imagery I did not understand, what (as before [3236]) they know and do not know-there being countless things in every idea-and that to eternity they cannot know even the most general things. This was also shown to them to the point where they acknowledged it. Then the angels spoke with them things they did not perceive except by means of changes of state, things that they were saying they do not understand, but perceive by changes of state. Then they were told that every single change (now, [they say,] the least), contains countless things; finally, when they had realized this, they humbled themselves, their humbling being portrayed to me by a letting down of the volume of them toward the deeper parts more and more, and nevertheless an elevation could not be concealed, due to the fact that the volume was hollowed and lifted up at the sides, then also by a certain movement back and forth. They were also told what this means, or what they are thinking in their humiliation. So they are halved, the half of the volume [of spirits] above my head being sent back toward their planet, behind toward the left, the other half remaining in a humbled state. This was a sign that those who would not humble themselves were sent back home, in order to learn there.