4720. CONCERNING THOSE WHO POUND. They who, in the life of the body, have been of such a character that they have been just and equitable in their works or deeds, and, yet, interiorly, have acknowledged neither God nor the life after death, thus, interiorly have been in no worship - these in the other life appear to be pounding; and that which is thus pounded is supposed to be flour, but it is human dung, as is read in the prophet, and it tastes urinous. From such a one also, I felt a sensation of cold in my ankles; and he is called, by spirits, a shoemaker, because he was in outermost natural states, which are signified by shoes.